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Education - Other Courses & Seminars
There are a whole range of educational courses and products available at prices to suit most budgets. These courses can be a bit of a minefield to compare as to cost and content because some appear to be free whilst others can cost hundreds or even thousand's of pounds.
For example a number of course providers, Whitney for example, offer a free 2-hour property investment course/seminar at which they, the provider, will try and sell you a more advanced 1 to 3 day course. Other providers will deliver a taster at an exhibition, conference or network evening in the hope of selling a full day or number of days course on the subject matter. We tend to fall into the latter category.
In some cases you cannot book onto a course without first attending the freeby or taster. We do not fall into this category.
Costs:
Making a price comparison between the educational courses listed below can prove difficult, so we are going to try and list the daily rate for one person attending plus the minimum cost which can be quite high if there is any sort of package being offered, for example a multi course or a single course with ongoing support.
Cost though should not be treated as a guide to quality. The most expensive may not be any better than the cheapest and vice versa.
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Data base marketing:
Many of these sites are desperate to get your name and email address for marketing purposes. Most, if not all, promise never to sell your name or pass it on to a third party. We also do the same but not quite so desperately, at least I hope it seems that way.
In one case below, a book offer comes with a load of freebies, if you try to leave the site without buying the book they will still offer to send you all the freebies if only you register before leaving the site!!
Whitney UK. I am starting with Whitney UK of course, because I am one of their presenters, they pre-date most of the educators listed on this site and I helped Russ Whitney introduce his ground breaking property investment concepts to UK investors back in 2001.
Many soundly rubbished them, others listened, made loads of money and now even teach the "secrets"! Whitney UK Ltd, is now being rebranded as " Wealth Intelligence Network" or WIN and includes the family of brands below.
Whitney UK www.russwhitney.co.uk is sometimes regarded as expensive due the way it is sold, but, at the end of the day, the suite of courses that you can buy are good value and competitively priced.
Your introduction to Whitney generally starts with a free 2 hour seminar at which you can buy a 3-day property investment course which in itself covers a lot of ground and at around £125 per person per day is very good value when compared to others. I know the speakers on this 3-day event and they are all experienced investors.
This can be followed by a suite of 3 day Advanced Courses that cover most of what you need to know, dependent on your strategy, and are delivered by investors many of whom were Whitney students and have learnt the hard way.
In each case you need to do the 3-day Introduction Course, which covers various aspects of their suite of 3 day Advanced Training Courses, before undertaking courses at the Advanced Level. I deliver the Advanced Buy to Let Course and my students need to understand the basics & terminology before coming on that course hence the reason for the intro course.
The cost is dependent on the mix of "advanced" courses that you sign up for. For more information on content check their website.
I have now delivered over 30 of the 3-day Advanced Buy To Let Training which is pretty comprehensive even if I say so myself, I designed it. Lots of number crunching, plus looking in depth at the product, the property, and your customer, your tenant or buyer and how a decision in one area impacts on another area, good or bad.
Quality is my mantra and being the First Choice of your prospective customer is the aim. At the end of the 3 days my students are asked to evaluate the content & delivery and I generally average over 90% but there are a lot of broken arms afterwards! The core of this Course is covered in our Masterclass Workshop.
Whitney UK also works along with such buy-to-let household names as Gill Fielding, the Secret Millionaire, Martin Roberts, Homes under the Hammer, Dominic Farrell, bewarethesharks and Rohan Weerasinghe all of whom offer there own courses which are either property related or motivational or a bit of both and worth considering.
Also in this category are Whitney presenters Kevin Green, Mark Dalton & Lindsay Hopkins who do not offer independent courses but may appear in other non Whitney publicity material and are real value for money. If their name appears on the speaker list try and go to the event.
Gill Fielding, www.wealthcompany.com who, uniquely, offers a 3 day course open only to women which seems very popular judged by the promo videos on the site, can't comment personally as I'm not be allowed in! Gill though is a great motivational speaker as well as knowing a bit about property, we have presented together for Whitney UK, and I am not surprised at all by the positive comments on her site. Ladies definitely go for it.
Martin Roberts, www.makingmoneyfromproperty.tv promoting a whole range of property related products and services from books through home study courses to 3 day seminars plus a link up with bewarethesharks Dominic Farrell in his guise as CEO of Jet to Let. Having completed Martin's course you can become a "Member of the Inner Circle". Given Martin's very public profile through Homes under the Hammer I would expect his courses and products to be first rate.
Dominic Farrell, www.bewarethesharks.com starts off with Investor Profiling using "the latest profiling techniques used in the City and industry" to find out what you should or should not be doing before going into the Economics of Property Investing and other parts of his course. Having completed his course you are able to join his Sharkwatch Community of Investors. Again Dominic's public profile should guarantee a quality product.
Dr Rohan Weerasinghe www.rohanlive.com & www.wealthangels.tv. Rohanlive promotes Rohan as a public speaker and I have to tell you that he is quite exceptional. If he is on the list of speakers then go to the event. In addition under wealthangels he sells a 12 part home study course which covers virtually every aspect of buy-to-let.
This course can either be bought as an online download, the cheapest option, or as a pack of DVD's, both with supporting documentation.
The cost of all 12 parts starts at £397 for the online download version and £597 for the DVD version, both available by monthly subscription, but, and a big BUT.
You can buy any one of these 12 parts for £49.97, online download version, plus you can get a taste and feel for the content as each part listed by clicking on and playing a 3-4 minute mini video of Rohan interviewing an expert and explaining what is covered in that section of the course.
Alternatively you can book on to a 1 day course in central London, when run, at around £249 per person per day.
In addition there is a new feature the Interactive Arena which is, and I quote, "aimed at keeping you updated on the latest property, tax and financial news to help you stay one step ahead of the game." You can subscribe at a special launch price of £29.97 per year. They expect to raise the price to around £99.97.
Altogether a very professional package. We are affiliates.
Outside of the Whitney family so to speak I like:
Glenn Armstrong www.glennarmstrong.com. Glenn is very strong in both the BMV (behind market value) & creative finance markets plus running courses for DIY investors and regularly speaking at property network events such as the Berkshire Property Meet. I first met Glenn at a conference organised by Steve Foley www.ukiec.com whose conferences are well worth the money.
Glenn is not the greatest speaker in the world but the message is still well worth listening to as he has a vast amount of experience in developing property portfolios both for himself and clients.
We are attending his BMV 1-day course in Milton Keynes on Feb 28th 2009 so following that day we will be updating this report.
We are an affiliate of Glenn's.
Rob Moore & Mark Homer www.progressiveproperty.co.uk. Two very switched on lads operating in the BMV market in Peterborough both buying property for armchair investors and teaching DIY investors. Rob also lectures on Internet Marketing.
They regularly appear and speak at networking events so if you attend one where they are speaking you can get a flavour of where they are coming from and their style.
Most of the links to or on their website end up on another of these endless pages which would appear to quite repetitive. As to content well they don't promise to make you an overnight millionaire but that is impression you get within seconds of hitting the site.
I quote from their internal link to their Buy their Book section "The 44 Most Closely Guarded Property Secrets Reveals: The Quickest, Easiest & Most Proven Way to Become a Property Millionaire Without Work, Time or Money Now in the Property *Crash*"
Their caps/bold and underline, not mine.
The 44 Most Closely Guarded Property Secrets are revealed in a book costing £19.97 inc p&p. This is worth buying as are most similar such products at around £20.
I haven't attended any of there course yet but will be doing so and will report further. I have listened to them at a conference organised by Steve Foley www.ukiec.com plus a couple of networking events and they come over as sincere & knowledgeable. We are an affiliate.
John Lee & David Kyte www.propertycow.co.uk. First and foremost it costs £100 to gain access to the content of this site bar being able to watch a couple of videos the first on their home page, takes about 12 minutes and involves John Lee covering various aspects of their site, at speed, on what you can expect for your money.
So what do you get for your £100. I don't know because I have yet to spend £100, the main reason is that I would expect to have to devote a load of time during the 1st month to get my monies worth, time that I don't have at the moment whilst I increase the content of this site.You can cease you monthly sub at any time. So maybe next month I will punt £100 at the site and let you know what is inside at a more leisurely pace.
That said these guys are again well known and popular on the circuit and David Kyte is an expert on web sites. You should be able to find John speaking at one of the network events.
Simon Zutshi www.propertyinvestorsnetwork.co.uk. This guy is well known on the circuit, saw him for the first time at one of Steve Foleys conferences and he came across as both knowledgeable and able to present his message.
He offers a monthly newsletter plus runs monthly networking meetings in six cities across the country at which there is an educational 1 hour seminar, no on selling he says. The cost is £30 on the door, £20 in London, advance booking or reservation is needed and can be sorted on his website. Payment by cash or cheque on the door, not in advance.
This network should not be confused with Vanish Patel's propertynetworkingclub which runs monthly events in London, Birmingham & Manchester.
Simon then offers a 12 month Mastermind Programme and once again we are sort of talking telephone numbers but at least you do have the chance to meet & listen to Simon at either one of his monthly meetings or at others where he is speaking before making up your mind.
Ranjan Bhattacharya's www.succeedinproperty.com if only because the property experts in his line up are a veritable who's who in buy to let.
Ranjan offers a huge series of online audio & video seminars which are added to "weekly" and available on a subscription basis varying from just under £12 to £47 monthly inc VAT dependent on the level of membership. Missing seems to be anything on law & regulations but he lists experts that can cover this area.
I sort of like Rod Thomas's www.property-investment-profits.co.uk. Whilst this site goes on and on like the next review, must have had the same developer, the Nine Elements of PIPS, about a quarter of the way down the page, make sense and are in a logical order. I don't like the £497 price tag that jumps to over £600 with shipping & VAT in the UK. The course does come with a 30 day money back guarantee which should be long enough for any serious investor to evaluate PIPS.
I also sort of like Parmdeep Vadesha's www.thetycoonmethod.com. There is some interesting content but the pages just go on and on and on... and we are also back into talking phone numbers which makes me very nervous.
I had to go to bottom of the page and start the process of buying to find out the actual price inc shipping, £106.95 with a lifetime money back guarantee, at least I think that is what is meant by one of the boxes.
Anyway at the price I would buy, this guy is well known on the circuit, is a successful property investor and also a good speaker. His apartment in Spain by the way, which you can find under Motivational Goal Setting, is well worth the money too and accurately described, I own one in the same building except my view is even better as are the furnishings, and my flat has a flat screen TV! So if his is not available you can try mine at about the same rate.
HMO's (Houses in Multiple Occupation):
If you are interested in HMO's (Houses in Multiple Occupation), then outside of WIN who offer a 3-day Advanced Training Course run by an HMO landlord, there appear to be only two options open to you.
Jim Haliburton's www.hmodaddy.com
I have not been on one of his courses and once again we are back into the world of becoming a millionaire but I know that he has a very good reputation in the industry, have heard him speak at one of Steve Foley's conferences, lovely guy and very down to earth.
HMO is a very complex area so quite how he is able to cover the subject in 3 hours, 10am - 1pm, then lunch then site visits till 5pm defeats me even if he is giving you a 200 page manual.
Maybe you need to have done a broad based buy to let course first such as our Masterclass and this is not intended as a plug.
Also his course costs leave little to spare, his courses have to be some of the most expensive on offer at £795 plus 50% for your partner and I would need to be very certain of the content before applying.
I would also need to have decided to definitely want to invest in HMO's where you will need more hard cash over and above the cost of this course to cover the deposit and other expenses.
I don't doubt that Jim Haliburton knows what he is talking about, the question is can you absorb enough in the time allowed to make it worthwhile? You do get 12 month's access post course to Jim by email or phone but is that enough?
Matthew Moody www.yourhmoexpert.com & www.hmocashflowsuccesssystem.com
His site yourhmoexpert is more information than sales, for information on his services, courses & mentoring, go to hmocashflow...We are sort of back into telephone numbers and at £497 for the day's course, £745.50 for a couple, you need to be reasonably certain that HMO's are for you.
The courses are held at a hotel so there appears to be no opportunity to visit Matthew's HMO's unlike Jim Haliburton above.
Haven't met the man of spoken to him yet and he hasn't appeared at any or the networking events that I have been to but that doesn't mean that the message is wrong.
Renovating Property:
If you are interested in renovating property, which is a way to make serious genuine money, no millions, but certainly tens of thousands with almost an unlimited amount of stock to play with anywhere in the UK and abroad.
We at Buy To Let do this, in fact it is one of our specialist areas. We have completely renovated over 50 properties in the Valleys of South Wales which has involved completely gutting the properties so as to be able to site the bathroom on the 1st floor without sacrificing a bedroom. Also the resultant tax break means that it is possible to develop a cash flow positive portfolio and never pay any tax on the positive cash flow. see workshops.
Dr Dennis Coote, www.renovationriches.com haven't met the man yet but will be doing so shortly. If he has renovated over 400 properties then he will have learnt a thing or two and at £97.00 you can't go wrong.
This is not yet a comprehensive list of educators, courses or seminars. I am aware of others but I have taken the decision not to list anyone offering a course that I am not happy with from the limited amount of information on their site and in advance of talking to them.
Omission should not be taken as a no no. That will come in time!!
There are also some free courses, which I think even includes a free lunch, run by The Money Centre, a mortgage broker, www.themoneycentre.co.uk. They take place across the country and are a part of their marketing. Their course lasts from 10am to 3pm which does not give you a whole lot of time to learn about buy-to-let but they do offer a free buy to let guide.
If anyone has been through any courses or seminars that are not listed here and thinks they should be included email me and we will take a look.
Also, as has been said, any feedback on any of the above would be greatly appreciated.
Affiliates
Where we advise you that we are an "affiliate" of the business concerned it means that we receive a commission on any sales that we generate through this site. For us to be paid you need to click on our link to their site then they know that you came from us.
This helps keep many aspects of the site free for you. We try not to let our affiliation affect any of our reporting but that is for you to judge.
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